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Did you ever meet Gil Solaman. Probably wrong spelling but he lives in Scotlanf. What he doesn't know about violina isn't worth knowing

Bruh i assumed it was gonna be the violin player lol

Very interesting. I agree it sounded less bright. The interesting question is "why?". Carbon fibre acoustic guitars exist and it is said the carbon fibre is very neutral... That it doesn't absorb or deaden any frequencies in the way different species of wood will lessen the volume of different frequencies. If we assume that to be true then the logical explanation for the wooden bridge being bright would be that it is failing to transmit all low/mid frequencies into the body

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I put an Otto low mass fine tuning tailpiece on my student violin and it really woke up the instrument. I didn't realize how much the 4 fine tuners on a wooden tailpiece dampen the violin. The Otto low mass fine tuning tailpiece (at less than 12 grams) actually weighs less than many wooden tailpieces.

Now that's messed up, We're is the rest of the video, I'm missing out.

Yeah that's a great philosophy. ....actually now that I think of it that could apply to all artforms

Thanks!

When you consider that there are limitless possibilities, why limit yourself to just two?

Do you want to have a measuring tool that can give you thickness results from a ready-made violin without disassembling it into parts with an accuracy of 0.1 mm? Pls, let me know.

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HEY DUDE!!! Great videos! you need more subscribers!! (i NEVER subscribe to youtube channels, but i subscribe on yours!) your channel is a "hidden gem" from what i've played, I feel like the "antiqued" look also lets the wood vibrate a little more in a way i like. If it's very glossy or if it's a thick varnish, i don't like it as much. And of the violins i have played i notice the same trend whether it is a $$$ violin or a $$$$ violin (i've only played one $$$$$ violin, before so i can't say, but that one was nice, of course)

As a former cnc operator and someone starting to build instruments, I feel that they can both exist. I feel that the front and back plates could easily be roughed out by cnc then the master can fine tune them by ear. I even have an idea to balance the plates similar to how jet turbines are balanced that would be fun to experiment with.

So now try Titanium tailpiece ---with Real Gut strings. Salt and Pepper together .

The titaniom makes the tone harsher . For the player --the Bach piece needs the phrases to be separated and have their own character rather than one long continuous piece. Accentuate parts to give them some individual feeling..Lighter going up --tiny pause --and heavier going down .Build in the force of gravity .Exagerate a bit .

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What's the difference on the violins that have protruded backs and front shapes from regular ones

My cello was hand made in Chicago in 1990 and it was pristine when it came to me. Today it is perfectly antiqued through no fault of my own. So when I was not very good and just learning to play I had a and new pristine instrument. Now that I can play better (???) I have a seasoned antique looking cello. Best of both worlds.

I'd love to hear from the player. She seemed more at ease playing on the titanium tail piece. It sounded a bit better as well.

I've heard of Anna Arietti in person, it's one of the best in the world. I can't afford it but the price is a steal, convinced they could only get expensive fast.

Antiquing an instrument can help an instrument look like it has character, but it is only surface deep, and a false representation of a life it didn't live. A faked photo of Edgar working on a violin on the Ole Bull on top of Mt Everest might look cool, but has nothing to do with reality. I think the worn finish, scratches, nicks, etc. are better when they chronicle the true journey of the violin through the hands of the owners and musicians that played it, as it actually may convey something meaningful about the instrument. I play guitar, and "Relicing" them has become quite common and fashionable.

omg thank you sir

It’s aggravating to me that it is so difficult to find good new violins that are not antiqued. Though I absolutely appreciate the artistic abilities of those who do this craft, I want a pristine violin if I buy a new violin.

I've never understood why people make that fake antique looking. Even a perfect copy, there is no point on it. I spend hours trying to get perfect curves, perfect surface, perfect fitting and in a nutshell the best of my skills reflected on it. Why start to pretend dings and dents and patina. To me this is just to avoid the only relevant goal, good sound. If you need your violins to look like oldest ones may be you are trying to influence the customer to hear something that it is not actually in the violin itself.

Any advice for cleaning underneath the fingerboard on a violin?

I like and have modern instruments that are lightly antiqued. I love them like life itself. I do not want anyone to be put off by a prejudice against new instruments. Lightly antiqued moves the focus away from the look and puts it where it belongs - - - The SOUND! I much prefer a healthy easy to play modern instrument with a sound to surpass any old cranky instrument.

Don't really like antiquing. Does a new violin cost less without antiquing?

I don't really like antiquing. I'd rather see the beautiful workmanship that shows the luthiers skills without being obscured with distressing. For me, the maker's skill shouldn't be obscured cosmetically although a really fine replica isn't a bad thing in some cases, as for museums, or if a fine musician or collector really treasures his original and wants to preserve it. A museum quality copy can also be quite expensive as there are many 'sort of looks like' copies.

I use German varnish sprayed on with dye. If you really want a good antique look but quality then I like to sand the first layer to get the wearing areas and the spray the last 2 layers and polish after that. I think the beating and battering look just make it look over done. 🤷‍♂️ Then again, I’m just a moderately decent luthier. 🤙

I like a bit of shading. Sound is most important. Even though I like a bit of antiquing, I'd choose new looking and plain, if I loved the sound.

I like mine looking new. With the beautiful sound of your instruments, it will be played enough to form its own character over time. I also don’t like copies, I wouldn’t an instrument that says, “Look, I was made by Edgar and have the best sound”. That would be enough for me.

15:13 "the more I give to others the less I know what I have to do". The key point I think. Most of the work can be automated or given to apprentices, making the craftsman far more productive, but something is lost if he or she does only the fine tuning and the finishing touches. Something your customers and John Kirk can hear when they play a true 'handcrafted' instrument. Only some parts are made by your own hands. The right ones.

I prefer an older look to an instrument.. and not too shiny!..

In the world of electric guitars this is known as “road warn”. I’m fascinated by the natural aging on my 1893 Mason violin. I think about it surviving two world wars, the grit from the pollution of the Industrial Revolution and natural wear and tear from being used. All this is real, not made in production. I think I lean towards a new and pristine violin from the maker. Having said that, your copy looks fantastic and I’m certain sounds wonderful!

Yes,I like it to age with time the best way looking old isn’t going to make the sound be like it is actually old.Thank you and I love your show.

Shiny like "sprayed on" I don't like at all. Antiqued like "damaged" is a "no" too. I like the way you subtly use changes in color (lighter here, a tad darker there) to give the instrument character.

I think that a violin deserves to age by their own. I like new and old alike, but old instruments have their history, and it's impossible to replicate on a imodern instrument.

I personally do not want an instrument to be artificaially "antiqued". I would rahter have a new instrument look new, I will play it and let it sweeten over time rather than buying an antique instrument. I couldn't afford a fine antique anway.

A new viola should look new. The varnish should be a pretty color and the wood grain should be lovely. Any signs of wear should be at my hands as I own and play it myself. It's my viola.

Very helpful video! Thanks! I am trying to fit a bridge for a 7/8 violin. Measuring the placement of the bass bar seems to indicate that a 4/4 bridge would be too wide for my 7/8 unless I had the bridge moved off center. A 3/4 bridge seems to hit it just right. Should I just go with the 3/4, cut width off the feet of a 4/4, or are there makers that make 7/8 bridges?

I don’t like my violins to look too new. The thought of bashing it around to “age” it doesn’t appeal either. A very interesting topic today Edgar.

Beautiful Ole Bull...!!!

500 likes...Antique and a close copy is good enough for me...of course a nice deep dark sound...Thank you!!!

I like character... But I'm not on the overly antique style either... I like an in between... 👍 thank you!

The difficulty with antiquing is doing it without it looking like it's been antiqued. I do like a slightly uneven stain and varnish.

I don't make violins, but when I make an instrument, I pretty much let my tool marks remain as part of the antiquing and part of the handmade look. Getting it perfect makes it look like a machine. I guess if people don't like that, they don't have to buy from me. Lol.

varnished and new looking

Heavily forced antiquing doesn't seem right to me, especially when you see the maker hitting the instrument with rocks, tools, keys and such. For a fresh made instrument, I do like a little shading in the color. Just a little subtlety goes a long way. And I definitely prefer the look of slight texture from an oil varnish over a glossy and monochromatic spirit varnish.

Sound is first priority and important to musicians then comes the shape and looks modern or antique depends on taste and feelings of player of instrument. Again : Sound 🎵🎶🎵🎻✨️ is first priority !

I must be a hybrid guy. I don’t like the really old worn out look but not the super shiny look either. Make me something interesting that will sound beautiful. 🎻🎻🎻